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Name: Derek Grout
Date: 11/12/03 Email
reply for JOHN WILLIAMS, who posted to this site on June
Capt. Frank Carey was born in Dublin in 1849 and was the
first master of the Empress of Ireland, which departed Liverpool on
June 29, 1906 for her maiden voyage. He commanded the Empress for
just four voyages. He had a long and distinguished maritime career
and died near Liverpool on Dec. 30, 1933.
For more details on
Capt. Carey and the maiden voyage, see my book "Empress of Ireland:
The Story of an Edwardian Liner".
Any chance I could obtain a
high-quality photo of the souvenir shillelagh presented to Frank
Carey, and some details, maybe for the next printing of the
Name: Alan G. Weller
Location: Edmonton AB
Message: My Grandmother, May Florence
(Williams) Weller, was registered to make that trip on
the Empress of Ireland but the night before she was to
start her trip from Calgary, Alberta, she had a dream.
In the dream she saw the Empress sinking and foresaw the
horrible tragedy that was about to be.
She was so convinced that the ship was
going to sink she contacted the ship line and cancelled
her booking that would have taken her back to England for
a visit. If she had gone my father, a one year old, would
have most likely gone with her.
The family story goes that she would have
traveled with friends who she unsuccessfully tried to get
to cancel their bookings . It is my understanding that
they died in the disaster. I do not know their names and
thus this part cannot be verified. Presumably they were
Although she lived for many more years dying in 1970 she
never traveled by passenger liner again and in one case
went to the extreme of sending a proxy to England to look
after her interests.
12th December 2003
Many thanks for your in teresting and informative site. Thanks to you I have been able to trace my great granfather, Charles Parkinson who sailed as an assistant steward on the final voyage of the Empress. He was sailing from Liverpool, England, where my family originate, as a steward to scout out prospects for immigration to Canada, where his brother was already living. Unfortunetely he died four years after the collision as a result( as family legend has it) of injuries suffered during the crash. I believe that the captain of the ship attended his funeral. It has also meant a lot to my father and grandmother to trace this information. Unfortunetely my family has not had much luck with sailing as his father also died in the Mersey in Liverpool as a result of a boat accident and my great uncle drowned in WW2 when The Royal Oak was torpedoed in Scapa Flow in the Orkneys. thanks again Kate Parkinson
dec. 24, 2003
wisconsin/ costa rica
the most beautiful ship of all times. what a tragedy.
January 3, 2004
West Palm Beach, FL, USA
I found your site through Google, and am impressed with the wealth of information available concerning the sinking of the Empress of Ireland. I am a writer of historical novels and my current novel is a children's book that will feature fictional characters on the ship as an impetus to the story's theme. I have been searching for this information for quite some time, but found most sites to be lacking what I needed. Thank you so much! By the way, if Derek Grout reads this, I would be most interested in obtaining your book. Kind Regards, Kyrila Scully www.titanicimpact.org
Jan. 8th, 2004
Croydon Hills, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
You have a great sight here on the Empress of Ireland. I was wondering if you are going to include, again the Empress of Ireland's Passenger and Crew List? This was very helpful in obtaining who survived and died in the disaster. Can you tell me how many bodies were recovered? How many were claimed? Do you have a complete body recovered list in number order? Thanks Adam
Reply from Sea-View Diving: Adam: We
will be posting the passenger list on this new web site soon. According to
the list produced by CPR there were 462 people saved and 1015 lost. The
rest of your questions are quite intensive! When the list is posted, I
will leave it to you to do the calculations. Are you writing a book?
Los Angeles, CA USA
It's both a shame and a wonder that this horrible event is literally void of public consciousness in light of the stigma created by the sinking of the Titanic.
Empress of Ireland My Grandfather Walter Erzinger survived (2nd class). He was born in Switzerland and emigratet to Canada several years bevor. In may 1914 he wanted to visit his verry ill brother in Switzerland. He survived, because he jumped into the water very soon after the crash and began to swim.
15 January 2004
I read with great interest the info on your site because my grandfather Martin Gill was a survivor of the Empress of Ireland disaster. I am wondering if any special commemoration is being planned for the 90th anniversary?
Reply from Sea-View Diving: Mary: On
May 29, 2004, the Musée de la mer of Rimouski is organizing a day of
activities for descendants of the victims and passengers of the Empress of
Ireland. This meeting will take place as part of the 90th anniversary
commemorative activities of this maritime tragedy, one of the worst after that
of the Titanic.
Jan 16th 2004
My father has left me an oil painting of the Empress of Ireland in his will . The painting is about three feet long and three feet wide and has a gold frame. I always remembered this picture on the parlor wall in our home in Ireland. Due to our family name being Walsh I would like to know if there was a connection with the Walsh of CPR and if anybody knows who would have painted this picture Respectfully Submitted Dj Walsh Toronto
John de Jong
At http://members.home.nl/jojodive you will find a lot of underwater pictures I shot in the Netherlands. Please leave your message in my guestlog.
January 29, 2004
Priddis Alberta Canada
My mother came to Canada from Sweden on the Empress of Ireland in 1910. She passed away in 1996 at the age of 90. Is there a web site for passenger lists anywhere for that year?
Jasper GA USA
I just viewed a documentary on maritime disasters and must confess had never heard of the Empress of Ireland. Searching now for more info.
See my home page with foto's of holland please sign my Guestbook www.mherman.demon.nl
February 8, 2004
Provost, Alberta Canada
My grandparents Marcus August Sylvester Blomquist and Elisabet Katerina (Erikkson-Dotter) Blomquist and their two youngest sons - Olav Sigfrid Blomquist and Erik Walfred Blomquist perished that fateful night May 29th, 1914 when the liner The Empress of Ireland sank.
John Ross Bullock
My Great-Uncle, Thomas Ross, was lost in the Empress disaster. My mother always said that he was on his way back to England to try to persuade my Grandmother (his married sister) to return to the USA with my Grandfather and my mother (who was 8 at the time). Thomas's two brothers stayed in the USA and my son reconnected with that side of the family again in the 1980's when he was doing our family tree. The descendents still live in Michigan, near to Detroit.
february 15 2004
A brother of my grandfather (together with his wife & six little children) drowned in the Empress of Ireland disaster. His name was Camille Verniers.
Julian Walter Taylor
I was glad to find this site and discover that there is so much interest in the Empress. My grandfather was Walter Taylor, the carpenter's mate, and he died in the sinking. My wife, Wendy, and I intend to visit Rimouski in May for the 90th anniversary commemoration. We are busy making the necessary arrangements and have booked our flights and look forward to the event and meeting up with other interested parties. If you have any information you think we might find useful, we shall be pleased to hear from you. Julian and Wendy Taylor
Hi, I really like all the pictures of the minerals. I will come by later! bye!
Superior Wisconsin USA
Thoroughly enjoyed reading about the passengers aboard the Empress. I have a very strong desire to dive this wreck but need some time to prepare. Thank you for the history provided and the personal information about her passengers and crew.
Izmir / TURKEY
As a person it is really hard to accept that so many innocent died. As an engineer it is really hard to see a good lady under the sea covered with darkness. May their souls rest in peace.
My grandfather Oliver Mardall, with the Salvation Army, was lost on The Empress of Ireland
My husband and I just viewed a documentary about the "Empress". We were spellbound...such a tragedy...so akin to the "Titannic". I believe that it's right to protect the "Empress" from further looting...to take anything is like grave robbing.
Chestnut Hil, Ma 02467 USA
I believe a relative of mine went down with the Empress. Can you tell me if anyone by the name of TAPLIN was on the ship. Thank you.
Liverpool United Kingdom
Hello Brenda, Elizabeth Taplin was a victim of the disaster. She was born, Elizabeth Turner in Holywell, Northumberland, England around 1889, the daughter of Thomas and Isabella Turner. She had three brothers and two sisters. She married, in British Columbia, James Walter Taplin on 27th September 1913 and settled in Kamloops. She was returning to Northumberland to visit her family. Her body was recovered but I'm not yet sure where she was buried. hope this is of some help. Geoff
marlboro, mass USA
I enjoyed looking through your site. I saw some of a recent TV show that sparked my intrest. I hope to see it in it's entirerty soon. Good luck keeping the recovered artifacts in Canada. It would be a great loss to your contries history to loose them again, this time forever.
Sugarloaf, PA USA
My husband recently caught a story on PBS about the Empress. We have never heard of the Empress before, it was always Titanic, Lusitania, etc. I'm just beginning my reading on the Empress. Thanks for supplying the info.
Buffalo Grove, IL USA
I just saw the History Channel "Deep Sea detectives" program about the Empress and the search to understand what happened. I was apalled that I had never heard of this tragedy before--I have been reading extensively about wrecks such as the Titanic, The Edmund Fitzgerald and the Regina and was surprised never to have heard of the Empress. I also agree that the artifacts should stay in Canada--in honor of those who perished, and this important dark moment in Canadian history.
Valentine Watson Rodger
23rd April 2004
London, Ontario, Canada
One of the passengers lost in the wreck of the Empress of Ireland was my great-aunt, Miss Alma Fedora Maude Assafrey, my grand-mother's favorite sister.
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May 5, 2004
Rpchester, New York USA
One question: Are there any living survivors of the Empress of Ireland sinking? And one observation: It's a wonder anyone survived at all.
Reply from Sea-View Diving: Ted:
No, there are no living survivors. The last
living survivor was Grace Martin. She passed away in 1996 I believe it was. I
had the great opportunity to meet and have dinner with her one night. She knows
a good diving friend of mine Steve Brooks so we got together and met her at the
old age home she was in and took her out to Swiss Chalet that night. I am so
glad I met her. She had some great remembrances to tell. She is quite thankful
that divers are able to dive to wreck site and bring back artifacts from the
wreckage that become a remembrance to everyone of this tragedy she told us.
Hi Really liked the site and enjoyed reading about the Empress although I could not access the links to the individual passengers notes. P.S. got here via Deep Blue Utila Site.
Connie Zuk Nisinger
Godfrey, Illinois U.S.A.
My grandfather, George Zuk, survived when the Empress of Ireland sank. His wife Maria and their two children, Wladisaw and Josefa, did not survive. George later met and married my grandmother and had three more children. They named my father Walter in memory of Wladisaw and his sister Josephine in memory of Josefa. I visited Rimouski last July and was fortunate enough to be able to go out over the site of the wreck and participate in a very moving remembrance ceremony. I recently attended the 90th anniversary events organized by the Musee de la mer in Rimouski. Unfortunately, the weather didn't cooperate and we didn't get to go out to the site where the ship lies, but I was thrilled to meet more descendants as well as authors, divers and others with an interest in the ship. I'm looking forward to meeting many more people with Empress connections at the next reunion--hopefully at the 95th anniversary in 2009!
Thank you for a very interesting and informative site. I am an amateur local historian. Whilst recording interesting gravestones in our local cemetery I came across three which commemorate victims of the "Empress of Ireland" disaster; Bertie Vivian aged 21 yrs, Ethel Davies aged 25 years and William Clare aged 25 years. Does anyone know anything of these people? were they passengers?
Raymond - Looks like we are neighbours! William Clare and Bertie Adams Vivian were both assistand stewards on the Empress. Ethel Steward Davies (nee Gough) was a second class passenger who had been living , with her husband William, at 53 Dingwall Avenue, Toronto. The couple had been married for three years. Upon discovering that Ethel was pregnant, the couple decided to return to their native Liverpool - William sending money which he had earned in Canada, home to his sister, in order that she might purchase a small shop for them to run. The couple reached the deck and crawled up the slope until washed off as the Empress rolled over. William managed to keep himself and Ethel afloat by holding onto some wreckage until they were pulled into a lifeboat. Ethel was one of those unfortunates who died shortly after rescue. You will find many headstone inscriptions, both to passengers and crew, in Liverpool cemeteries.
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St. Catharines, Ontario
Hi Everyone, I will thrilled when I found this websight regarding the Empress of Ireland. My great grandfather and his son perished on this fateful night when the Empress of Ireland sunk. I never met either of them, but I would like to learn more about this trip they were taking. They were on their way to Sweden, after travelling across Canada from Thunder Bay, Ontario. His last name was Schmedburg ( I could be spelling it wrong) and I am no sure of his first name (possibly William). Can anyone tell me if there is a Web sight with the victims names anywhere for me to look at? I have seen reference to books where the victims and passengers are listed but not sure which books are better. Any information that could be passed on would be very much appreciated. Thank you for this wonderful web sight, preserving history is very important.
Hi Dan, Your Great Great Grandfather was Rafael Smedberg, he was taking his 10 year old son, Charles, for a visit to family in either Sweden or Finland. Rafael's wife was called Anna, and his brother, Esa, had been killed in a cave in only weeks before they left on the Empress of Ireland. Geoff
Laurence Sydney Brodribb Irving, the actor, who went down on the Empress along with his wife, Mabel Hackney, was part of my Brodribb family, from Somerset, UK. I have always had an interest in the Irving connection to our Australian line (my ancestor, William Adams Brodribb, a lawyer, was transported to Australia for 7 years for 'administering an unlawful oath'.) I have just finished reading Dave Zeni's wonderful book, 'Forgotten Empress'. It also records the death of Charles Goldthorpe - 1st class passenger. Does anyone know anything about Charles? My maiden name was Goldthorpe. Very unusual in Australia. My family have been the only Goldthorpe family in the Melbourne telephone directory in the last 50 years My grandfather, Alfred Goldthorpe, moved to Australia from England about the time of the sinking of the Empress - i.e. 1913/14. Was Charles English/Candian? I would appreciate any information. Cheers Jo Watson Queensland Australia
thanks i enjoyed reading your site
Very sad story, unbelievable. The video was excellent and really puts the tragedy into perspective.
south wales. uk
hi i love the pic's of the titannic, its suprising looking down at the sea, its like another world down./
very interesting site, lots of information i did not know. feel free to visit our site to see more underwater photos.
my Great Grandpa was on the ship of the Empreess of Ireland
it's a sad story what happened but interesting history because my great great Grandpa was Christor Haliday and he died on the Empress of Ireland
god bless ya very good web
crawley,.west sussex,. england
good site very tragic disaster not very well known.
My great-grandfather Christopher Halliday was a third class passenger on the Empress of Ireland. Just wanted to correct some of the things that were mentioned in earlier e-mails. Christopher was not widowed before he boarded the Empress of Ireland. Secondly, he was alone on this last voyage with his family back at home.
In regards to my late great-grandfather Christopher Halliday, my mistake he was in second class.
Peterborough ontario canada
Hi, Our Father, James Turnbull Cornthwaite was born on the Empress on it's voyage from Liverpool October 6, 1913. We thought he was named after the captain. Can you verify this. We remember our grandmother saying about eight babies were born during the voyage. Anyone else out there related to a ship born baby?
Empress Diver Dianne Strong
I just read a newspaper story from Syracuse, NY, about Richard Tordoff, 40, great-great-grandson of Matthew Tales, who died on the Empress in the 3rd Class. Richard was planning to dive on the Empress on August 1-3, 2004. If he succeeded, he may be the first Empress descendant to dive on her. (I was the 2nd woman to dive her, '70-'72, along with the first woman, Ronni Gilligan. We are included as "Brave Pioneers" in Kevin McMurray's '04 book: DARK DESCENT-Diving and the Deadly Allure of the Empress of Ireland.
My husbands Great grandmothers sister died on the Empress of Ireland. She was listed as Mrs George Prior but her name was mrs Edith Prior (formerly Auger). She was from England. We do not know if Edith and George had any children. Edith was 31 when she died. I would love to hear from anyone who has any information about George or Edith (i.e did he remarry) or anyone related to them, like grandchildren or greatchildren. Many thanks Sharon Piper
Sharon, Edith Mary Auger was born in Colchester, Essex in 1881. When she was 19 years old, she married George William Prior in Hunslet, Yorkshire. The couple relocated to Winnipeg, where they lived at 872, Alverstone Street. George worked as a mechanic at a local garage. The couple had five children, who all, tragically, died in infancy. Edith was making the trip home to England to visit her parents.
great sites, well done
My great-grandfather, Christopher Halliday died on the Empress of Ireland. There is a monument in his honor at the Winlaw Cemetery, south of Gainsborough, Sask. In an old family Bible there is a copy of the Coroner's Certificate. Your site is very informational.
Stephanie Johnson Strout
My great-grandfather, James Johnson, was a survivor. He was a member of the Salvation Army Band that was aboard. I don't know much of his trip except that when re-routed he met my great-granmother on the Empress of Britain. A great love story. I know he was very saddened by the loss of friends, one of them being E.Evens. Does anyone know a little more about E. Evens?
I have a small silver hand mirror, given to me many years ago by a Miss Hanbury-Williams (who lived at 6 Lower Ward, Windsor Castle), which is enscribed with her initials and 'HMS Empress of Ireland 20 March 1907. Is it of any interest/value?
Ernest Evans was aged 30 in 1914. He was a bass player for the Salvation Army Band. Ernest lived in Toronto with his wife and daughter, who was only a few weeks old at the time of the sinking. He worked in Toronto for the property department of the Salvation Army. Following the collision, the family made it up on deck where they found Bert Greenaway, who gave Ernest his sweater to wrap the infant in. Ernest's wife was hysterical so he took charge of his daughter. They were joined by the Hanagan family (only young Grace Hanagan was to survive)and separated as the Empress rolled over. The Evans family entered the water and were never seen again.
This is a fascinating site to gain information on the Empress of Ireland. My Great-Grandfather, Mr. Christopher Halliday lost his life when the ship went down.
please do you have a list of passengers of the "Empress" returning to Lincolnshire England, or could you give me contacts for other people who like me, from lincolnshire have ancestors on that last journey, who drowned. Many thanks Sheelagh
Really good work. Great sites.
Le site est assez intéressant. ca fait un bon bout de temp que je ne suis pas venue et je trouve qu'il a bien changé. j'ai l'impression qu'il n'était pas comme ca avant. Bonne continuation www.ifrance.com/evacance
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Julian and Wendy Taylor
The current issue (October 2004) of Ships Monthly contains a brief reference to the 90th anniversary commemoration held at Rimouski in May. This was an excellent event, organised by the Musee de la mer, who must be congratulated on their planning of the day. Full accounts were submitted to a variety of publications, including 'The Salvationist' who one would have thought would have been interested, but only this short paragraph reached print. Sad to relate that interest on this side of the Atlantic has been limited. Perhaps better in 2014? Keep up the good work over there, and all power to Marion Kelch and the Save the Artifacts committee. Julian and Wendy Taylor
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Bertie Adams Vivian was my ex husbands grandfather who went down with The Empress of Ireland. He never met his son also called Bertie Adams Vivian, born 15th May, 1914.
oh good site for us
Kirkland Lake, Ontario
I was indexing some Surrogate Court Records for the District of Temiskaming in Ontario and came across the name MATTI SIVILA of Cobalt, Ontario, who died aboard the Empress of Ireland in the Gulf of St.Lawrence. I became curious about him and was wondering if anyone out there knows anything more about him. How old was he? Was he married? Any relatives looking for him? I checked the two guest books and didn't see any queries about him. In 1914, Cobalt was a thriving mining town - was he a miner? Cathy
Rimouski, Quebec, Canada
Je suis très intéressé à bien connaître ce chapitre de notre histoire régionale.
Wicked site! Im doing a research project on the Empress of Ireland for school. This site had all the information I needed. Its so awesome.
Good site. Nice!
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my great grandfather James Reid was a fireman on the Empress. Is there a monument of any kind in Liverpool to record the the local crew members who were lost?
My mother just informed me that her father immigrated to Canada on the Empress of Ireland, sailing in 1909. I "googled" the name and found your site. How interesting and informative. Thank you.
Tony There are no memorials to the Empress in Liverpool. Many of her crew are mentioned on individual headstones in local cemeteries, but nothing "official".
Geoff, many thanks for your reply. Given the seafaring history of Liverpool and the number of other monuments in the city I am surprised. Were there many locals amongst the crew? Could you tell me at which dock on the Mersey the Empress berthed? The reason I ask that I will be in Liverpool with my family over the Xmas holiday and I would like to show my own sons where she used to come in. regards Tony
Tony I'm almost certain that she berthed at the Landing Stage itself. If you stand with the Liver Buildings to your left you will see a memorial with a synthetic gold flame coming from the top - this is the Engineer's Memorial, commonly known as the Titanic Memorial - the Empress would have berthed a couple of hundred yards to the right (just where the Dublin Ferry departure offices are today)The new hotel, directly in front of you (Crown Plazza - I think!) stands on the site of the old emigrant clearing centre, where third class passengers would have been inspected before boarding. Hope you enjoy your trip. Geoff
For Tony Williams. Hello, Tony. Nice to 'meet' a fellow Hertfordshire man with 'Empress'ancestry.My grandfather was Walter Taylor, Carpenters Mate, and he, too, came from Liverpool, as did most of the crew, and he died in the sinking. I don't know how much you know about the'Empress' but can recommend the books listed on this site, particularly that by Derek Grout. As you are visiting Liverpool shortly you may be able to find where your great grandfather lived. If you visit the National Archive at Kew they have all the crew lists from 'Empress' and these give home addresses. The staff there are very helpful. Sorry if you know this stuff already, don't mean to teach anyone how to suck eggs, but it gave me a great kick to see these records and could do the same for you if you've not already seen them. Tara, whack.
Julian (Herts), many thanks for the info. I have one book, "The Forgotten Empress". I am an exiled scouser who goes home when he can! I am ashamed to admit that although I was told the story of my great grandfather going down on the ship by my mother and her many sisters when I was a child, the real details were only a vague memory, and as time passes there seem to be many other things that are more important than looking back. It was only when my own son started a school project tracing family histories that I have been motivated by guilt to find out more details of my great grandfather and the tragic event that cost him his life at the age of 29. He left a wife and 4 children. regards Tony
Just be surfing around in net. I definitely found a very informal place with a lot of good stuff for everybody. I will certainly visit your site again sometime. Really good work.
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
I am looking for the passenger list of the last voyage the Empress made from Liverpool to Montreal.My father and his parents were on board as was the grandfather of my stepson. Can anyone advise how to find such a list please?
Rochester, New York, USA
Thank You. My Great Grandmother, Liza Oakley Cotterill was lost with the sinking of the Empress of Ireland. This has help to answer some questions.
A very informative site about a tragedy that is a bit forgotten everyone knows about titanic a bit Fewer about Lusitania but few about empress of Ireland. i am very curious about if any swedes were passangers when it sank I read the passangers list and some names sounds swedish and some people have Gothenburg and Malmo (swedish towns) as their destination. is it possible to get to know more about them nationality is not listed in the passangerslist. I would also like to know how to buy the video about the ships sinking to a reasonable prize (with postage from Canada it seems to be very expensive)
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My Grandmother arrived in Canada on te Empress of Ireland April 24, 1914.I only learned this last week but remembered reading about the tragic sinking and loss of life. I checked your site to be sure there was no error in my information. Thanks for a great site.
I was woundering if you have any information on Colonel and Mrs. Attwell? Example date of birth, date of marraiage and date of death. Thanking-you, Adam
George Stephen Atwell was born 18th October 1870 and died in 1960. both he and his wife Mary, nee Frink, survived the sinking. Sorry I can't be of more help. Geoff
My maternal grandfather's brother Eli Evinson and his infant son perished in the tragedy. His wife survived and returned to England but the family lost race of her many years ago.
I was wondering what happened to, Frederick E. Abbott after the disaster? When was he born and what year did die? I understand he was the last person to see, Laurence Irving and Mable Irving alive before he reached the Deck. Is this true? Thanking-you, Ian
Atlanta - United States of America
Interesting website you have
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South Cave.East Yorkshire,England
Very Good site, wish you all the best with your endevour's, our history is the most important thing we can everleave to our descendants. My wifes relatives Mr.& Mrs W.I. Naulls died on the on the Empress of Ireland, comming home to see their relatives in London, coincidendtaly the captains name was Kendall the same as mine? can you give me any more information on this captain i.e. where born,lived ,died, etc? I also was in the Merchant Navy and have been to Montreal on the M.V. Trewellard to load wheat, any help from anyone would be appreciated.
st. catharines ontario canada
I remember my mom "ellen" telling me the story of her grandparents James and Ellen Faulkner leaving London Ontario after visiting Fannie Webb their daughter but never making it back to England they found her grandma ellen but never did find her grandpa James Faulkner if I remember the story right their son was to accompany them back as well but decided to stay in London Ontario it was bittersweet to see their names on the list of the final journey somehow I feel if I need to talk to them I just pull up the list of names and they know that after all these years they are not forgotten and very much loved by our family.
Josephine M. Laxton firstname.lastname@example.org
September 24, 2005
My great aunt Mary Elizabeth Elliott(Ginnie) drowned on the Empress of Ireland, she was supposed to return by an earlier Birth on another Ship, but missed her boat (so to speak)she was the daughter of Aikins Elliott and Ellen Elliott nee` Gascoyne, of Acklam near Malton, Yorkshire, England. (my great grandfather and
grandmother). Her name is not listed as a passenger in the Book by David Zeni,
'Forgotten Empress'. Her obituary likely appeared in the Newspaper The Malton
Messenger... I do not believe that great Aunt Jane ever married..are there any
other records listing Passengers...regards, Josephine M. Laxton
Reply from Sea-View Diving:
You can see a copy of the original passenger & crew list from CPR
on our web site by going to:
I've searched through it myself and I don't see Mary Elizabeth Elliott(Ginnie).
Have a look for yourself.
Josephine M. Laxton email@example.com
September 30, 2005
Hello Dan: ,Jane Elizabeth Elliott found... Jane had married in 1907 to
James Dunn in Malton. Dec Quarter... her name appears in the Passenger List for
the Empress under the designation Mrs JENNIE DUNN... needless to say I am
ecstatic that we have finally located her. I am thrilled to bits but only
because she had been missing for so long. I intend to visit Quebec in the Spring
next year and visit the Memorial for the Empress and Passengers. I would like to
take a trip out to the site to pay my respects... sadly my 3Xs great grandfather
on my mother's side also drowned and is buried in Quebec... That was in 1832. I
found the burial record at St. Andrew's Church in Quebec City. He was travelling
on family business from England with his wife and several children Only he
drowned, or so the Coroner's Inquest ruled...I have found no more information
than the burial and really do not expect to. Thanking everyone who has gone the
distance for me to help me resolve my great Aunts drowning... Kindest regards,
Josephine.p.s. I am sorry for the wrong posting I inadvertently put Mary instead
of Jane on the initial posting...
Thursday, January 8, 2006 Location: Manchester United Kingdom
- Anna Gail Goldfeld
on Saturday, October 15, 2005
Message: My great-grandmother's brother died at sea on The Empress of Ireland.
His name was Eli Evinson but was listed only as initial E. on the passenger
list shown here. His wife apparently survived (Fanny) but his child died. This
is a very interesting site and I am glad you have the passenger list included
now. If anyone out there has info about the surviving Fanny Evinson I would
love to hear about it.
- Location: melbourne, australia
on Saturday, October 29, 2005
Message: I am interested in finding out some information (date of birth and
death) on Third-class Stewardess, Mrs. Helena Hollis. Any information would be
Sea-View Reply: If you look at the crew list
on our web site you will find Helena Hollies - Stewardess - Saved.
Perhaps someone else reading this can shine some further light on her for you.
from Craig Stringer
firstname.lastname@example.org on Thursday, November 10, 2005
Location: South Wales, UK
Reply for N Daly: Mrs Hollies had been born in Worcester in 1874, the
daughter of James and Harriet Coombs. She was born Harriet Ellen. Harriet
married Charles Henry Hollis in 1900. I am sorry, but I don't have her date of
New Submitter Entry:
email@example.com on Friday, November 25, 2005
Thank-you for the information about, Helena Hollis. I was wondering did any
Empress of Ireland passengers or crew live to see the age of 100? If so who?
Is there a list any where, in numerical order of the bodies recovered? I have
looked at the passenger and crew list and have an idea whose bodies were
recovered. If you have a list could you let me know. Thanking-you very much
for any information. Adam.
Sea-View Reply: No,
none of the survivors reached 100. The last survivor, Grace Martin died
about 4 years ago. She was approximately 86 years old at when she died.
I had the opportunity to meet her one evening. A diving friend, Steve
Brooks, who knew her from a TV news expedition he went on to the wreck site
arranged it. We met with her at the retirement home and went out for
dinner. It was a wonderful evening of conversation. I don't know
if there is a list of recovered bodies. If there is perhaps some other
readers can submit an answer for you.
- Shawn Timmins
Saturday, November 5, 2005
Message: My grandmother arrived in Montreal on the last voyage of the Empress
of Ireland from England. She sat at the harbour for 3 days waiting for my
grandfather who was working in Northern Ontario to come and get her. The
family back in England only heard that the ship had sank in the St Lawrence.
No one knew whether the ship had gone down before arrival or after the
departure from Canada.
Further to this story she married and had 7 children
but her husband William Timmins tragically drowned 10 years later while on a
boat on a sunnny Sunday afternoon. The boat capcized and my grandfather was
able to rescue everybody in the boat but was to weak to save himself. My
grandmother was on shore and with my father and his sister ( both to young to
be in the boat ) and witnessed the passing of her husband.
- George Jones
on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 Location: Burgess Hill Sussex Gt.
Message: My Grandfather, Henry Andrew Jones who perished in the disaster off
Father Point is included in the crew list as a "sal" steward (presumably "sal"
means saloon) I have a copy of the certificate confirming that he was "lost at
sea" and I have learned a little of his career with Canadian Pacific from a
collection of postcards that he either posted home or brought back with him
from various voyages but would like to learn more. I possess a copy of "Forgetten
Empress" by David Zeni but any information as to where I can look further be
very much appreciated.
Geoff Whitfield firstname.lastname@example.org
on Sunday, November 13, 2005
Message: George, You are correct, Henry Andrew Jones was
employed as a first class saloon steward aboard the Empress. In May 1914 he
was living here in Liverpool at no 23 Cunard Road, Litherland together with
his wife, Pheobe Jane, daughters Vera (17), Norah (14), Jessie (12) and son
Thomas Henry (16).
Elaine Beaupré email@example.com
on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 Location: Quebec, Canada
Message: Hi, If anybody have any age on some passengers on the Empress
when he sank, I would like to have them. I did a lot of search with no succes.
Thank you very much. P.S: Sorry for my English,
Usually, I speak in French!!!
from Geoff Whitfield firstname.lastname@example.org
on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 Location: Liverpool
Message: Hi Elaine, Let me know whose ages you are
looking for and I'll see if I can help. Geoff
on Thursday, January 12, 2006 Location:
Message: Re above entry on ages of victims, any data on Walter Taylor,
Carpenter's Mate, would be welcome. Julian Taylor
on Thursday, January 12, 2006 Location: Barnsley,
Message: This site is really great. I came to visit when I discovered that my
great great great grandfather, Matthew Tales, died on the Empress of Ireland.
I'm trying to trace my family history and it's really helped as I've already
found out that he left at least one son, James, in Canada before he set off
back to England to collect the rest of his family.
on Thursday, January 26, 2006 Location: Cufffley,
Herts. United Kingdom
Message: Congratulations to 'Empress of Ireland' as we celebrate the one
hundredth anniversary of her launch, 27th January, 1906.God bless her, and all
who sailed on her.
My great grandfather was one of
the survivors of the wreck and I am researching the story all the time. I have
attached a photo which I recently found of the Empress on the very day she
sank......have you any information on this image???
I have created a game where you have to
escape the sinking as part of my Masters Degree. The game uses actual
blue prints from the ship which I recreated in 3d (I could not make the
whole ship but a very small part). The idea of the game is to guide
John Ryan from the boilers to an upper deck in 6 minutes, as after this time
the lights failed and you would be trapped.
John Ryan Web Page
Dianne Bayes (Halliday)
email@example.com on Saturday,
January 28, 2006 Location: Prince George BC Canada
Message: Back in 2001 I signed the guest book but since then I have a new
email address. Just wanted to keep up to date. As I previously said my great
grandfather, Christropher Halliday was on the Empress of Ireland. He was not
on Saturday, February 4, 2006
Message: Wow what an amazing site. I found all the information i needed for my
Herritage Fair. She really was a remarkable ship its to bad her story is being
Pam Matichuk (rpmatichuk)
on Sunday, February 5, 2006 Location: St. Albert, Alberta,
Message: Thank you Geoff for updating the passenger list names (Mrs. Ellen
Wainwright Clark and Thomas Clark are now correctly spelled) Nice to see
entries from the 90th Anniversary group (Julian and Wendy, Connie)
on Monday, February 20, 2006 Location:
Woodville, ON Canada
Message: Feb. 20, 2006 This is a great site. I fell on it kind of by change.
Thanks to all those who have contributed to it. My Grandmother and Mother were
booked on the Empress of Ireland I believe in 1914 leaving from England coming
to Canada. My Grandfather had an preminition and told them not to come on the
Empress of Ireland but to wait for the next ship. My Grandfather's preminition
was right on because it sank on that very trip they were to be on it. I would
like to know if my Grandmother's and Mothers name are on the passenger list
but crossed off. They wanted to come over on the Empress as they were
Salvation Army and there were several Army folks travelling on it. There
names: Emma Rose Elliott Ribbans Clark and Margaret Clark. I would also like
to know how to view the passenger list and also what the Name of the next ship
was that sailed. My Mom is still with us. She will be 96 in May and she seems
to think it was the Scotian. Can anyone verify or shed some light on any of
this. Any information would be very helpful. Thank you so much for any help.
Sea-View Reply: Helen you can see the passenger
list on our web site at:
Crane TweetLvr@aol.com on Sunday,
March 5, 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA
Message: To Anyone Interested, I have for years been interested in the
Titanic. When I first heard about the tragedy of the Empress of Irleand I was
shocked to learn of a fireman who had survived both. Some have called 'Frank
Tower' who claimed to have survived Titanic, Empress of Ireland and the
Lusitania, a falsehood, and indeed that is. But I was able to use the crew
manifest on this site to verify that William Clarke, a fireman, was
unfortunately on both ill-fated ships, but luckily survived. Thank you for
helping me put a name to such an amazing story.
on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 Location: Liverpool, England
Message: Deborah, Maybe you've already seen the full "Lucky" Tower/Clarke
story, written by a friend of mine on:
worth checking out. Geoff
firstname.lastname@example.org on Monday, March 27, 2006
Location: Bro Sweden
Message: I found my grandfather Erickson, Eric J in the passenger list and
that he was lost, but he survived and lived in Ludvika Sweden. He
on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 Location:
Message: Thanks for sharing that information Viola. Just goes to show how
inefficient the original CPR passenger and crew lists were! I have a letter
written by a supposed "Victim" months after the sinking and a photograph of
another "Victim" after his arrival back in the United Kingdom
stewart nee blackham (email@example.com) on Saturday, April 1, 2006
Location: doncaster england
Message: my great great uncle arthur john blackham was lost on the final
voyage my great cousin shirley and myself are reearching family tree she hasnt
been able to find him listed before so i will let her know the site my
grandfather was named after him and i gave one of my sons his name as a middle
name so he may have been lost but he wont be forgotten!! i am now going to
have a better look atthis site thankyou
on Monday, April 3, 2006
Location: Liverpool England
Message: Hello Michelle! Strangely, when Arthur Blackham's estate was settled
in 1914, his family refered to him as Arthur James! I have him as a son of
John Blackham and Agnes Lavinia (nee Rimes) Blackham of Peterborough. he had a
brother, Christopher and two sisters, Alice Ethel and Agnes Ann. Arthur
emigrated to Toronto where he worked as a tram conductor for the Toronto
Street Railway and lived at 70 Clarens Avenue. He was returning to
Peterborough to collect his fiance, intending to return to Canada with her,
where they would be married. Geoff.
stewart nee blackham
firstname.lastname@example.org on Thursday, April 6, 2006
Location: doncaster england
Message: just to say how touched i was by geoff whitfields information my
family are so grateful we would never have found out the info he gave about
arthur thankyou so much michelle stewart nee blackham
email@example.com on Friday, September 29, 2006
Location: Liverpool England
Message: just found site and felt I had to mention my relative, a crew member
lost on the empress, William Mulvaney a trimmer born liverpool england
1890,God Bless,from all your fam in Liverpool.
Ranger firstname.lastname@example.org on
Friday, October 20, 2006 Location:
Message: Hi all, I was wondering... does anybody know
if the Empress was in Montreal prior to being in Quebec on May 28th? If so,
what date? I can find many notes on her being in Quebec City on the 28th, but
nothing as to where she was before that date. Does anybody know her itinerary
for the Month of May, 1914? Cheers, JP
on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 Location:
Haywards Heath, West Sussex, England
Message: I have been told by my auntie, that my Great Grand father, who
apparently worked the engine room was lost on the Empress of Ireland on that
fateful voyage. My Grandmother Mary McHugh later Rigby following her marraige
to my Grandfather, often told of the vision she had as a child of her father
appearing at their house in Ireland when she was just a small child. I have
been trying to find information relating to Grandmothers Father - his name was
James (Jimmy)McHugh. (Ihope this is the correct spelling of his surname) Any
information provided would be greatly appreciated.
(Ella ) Slater email@example.com
on Friday, December 1, 2006
Location: liverpool England
Message: My maternal grandfather James Reid (age 29 born in Liverpool)was
presumed drowned on the Empress of Ireland when the ship sank in the St
Lawrence seaway.My mother and her brothers and sister were only small children
when their father was presumed drowned (my grandmother was seven months
pregnant with her last child)I have a postcard depicting the Empress,it has
the name of the Empress on the side of the ship,I have been told that this is
a rarity, can anybody tell me if this is true. I would also like to know if
the monument which I think is situated in the town of Rimouski also contains
the names of the people who were never found.I would like to visit Rimouski in
the near future and would be very grateful for any information that can be
passed on to myself and my family.I also have in my possesion a copy of a
serviette which contains the names of all passengers and crew that were aboard
the ill fated ship, as I said earlier any information would be greatly appreciated.
on Thursday, December 14, 2006 Location: Irving, Tx.
Message: I had never heard about the sinking of the Empress until I was
watching a movie called The Lost Prince. I was so interested that I logged
into this site. I have always been interested in the sinking of the Titanic
and was astounded at the lack of knowledge people have about The Empress. What
a great web site.
Friday, December 15, 2006
Location: Shrewsbury, UK
Message: My father Arthur Henry Dixon (listed as an assistant steward) was a
survivor of the tragedy. His brother on another CPR ship had seen the Empress
that day after she left Quebec. He arrived in Quebec to hear the terrible news
and wondered what had happened to his younger brother. My father could not
swim but was picked up. He returned to his family in Liverpool. He did not
return to sea but in August 1914 joined the army where he was posted to the
Kings African Rifles and sent to German East Africa (now Tanzania) fighting
there until 1915 when he returned to U.K. and sent to the Front in France
where he was gassed in 1916. He later returned to work in the shore staff of
the CPR at Gladstone Dock, Liverpool. As a child I would go there and went on
several of the ships - Duchess of Atholl, and Montclare. At the beginning of
the war the CPR service ceased. He continued to work on ships in Liverpool
through out the war but was badly injured when a vessel in dock he was on
tilted and he with others fell several decks. He died in
firstname.lastname@example.org on Monday, January 1, 2007
Location: Doncaster England
Message: My Great Uncle, Wilfred Whitehead, a Yorkshire born sailor serving on
HMS Essex ( I believe), was one of the divers who worked for 2 weeks on the
salvaging operation. He brought up an American diver who was unconsious, and
sadly this man died. Wilfred was involved in the inquiry by Lord Mersey as to
whether the portholes were closed, Wilfred was 'emphatic' that from the parts
of the ship he had seen, that they were closed. I have a newspaper report of
an interview Wilfred did on a brief return to England after the event.
on Sunday, January 7, 2007 Location:
Hawkestone ON Canada
Message: My late father, Philip Cornish, arrived in Canada at the age of about
6 aboard the Empress of Ireland around 1906-07 with his 3 older brothers and
my Grandmother Mary Cornish (nee Watson). They came to join my Grandfather,
Walter Cornish, who had immigrated a couple of years earlier from Bristol. I
cannot find passenger lists of those years so unable to ascertain exact date.
Would be interested in locating passenger lists from those years if anyone
knows where to find them. Thank you.
on Monday, January 15, 2007 Location:
Message: my great great uncle arthur james blackham was lost at sea onboard
the empress of ireland ,i have photographs of him aswell as newspaper
clippings dated 1914 and memorial card .a newspaper article is on the internet
and here is the link if anyone is interested in reading his tragic story :http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/ViewArticle.aspx?SectionID=845&ArticleID=1674421
please leave a message on this site if you have any connections to
any of the names mentioned. many thanks. michelle stewart
email@example.com on Saturday, January 27, 2007
Message: My great great uncle, Austin Delaney was lost on the Empress of
Ireland He was the Asst. Sal Steward. Do you know if there was a list of any
pensions that were given to the families of the crew that lost their lives. I
have been trying to track his wife, Dora Delaney (nee Holmes) and any children
they might have had. They lived in Birkenhead at the time. Terry Delany
firstname.lastname@example.org on Saturday, January 27, 2007
Message: My grandmother Mrs Sarah Woodward(s) and aunt Miss Sarah
Woodward(s) went down with the ship. They were on their way back to London to
settle family affairs before returning to Toronto to live. My father Bert
Henry Woodward was 14 at the time and staying with his sister Florence Cheron
in Toronto. Is there anyone out there who is a descendant of this Woodward(s)
line? Henry Thomas Woodward(s) was my grandfathers name. My Grandmother
Mrs Sarah Woodwards and my Aunt Miss Sarah were on the ship in 3rd class. The
have been listed as lost. I wish I knew if they were still down there with the
ship or perhaps in a mass grave at Rimouski.
email@example.com on Sunday,
January 28, 2007 Location: Hermitage, TN
Message: My father gave me a painting of the Empress which he had received
from his grandfather. The painting is painted on the reverse side of the
glass. I am trying to find out who painted the Empress. Can any one help. It
is a magnificent painting. Thanks
Geoff Whitfield firstname.lastname@example.org
on Thursday, February 1, 2007
Location: Liverpool England
Message: Terry, Could you email me at
Austin Delaney please
Michelle Stewart nee Blackham
on Thursday, February 1, 2007 Location:
Message: i have left messages on here before concerning my gguncle arthur
james blackham but i have discovered that someone else who was lost may have
been a friend of the family his name was matthew tales i believe he was one of
the witnesses at the marriage of arthur's sister alice blackham's marriage to
frank marsh in new dundee 1909 i have a photograph taken around that time of
alice and frank and what looks to be a group of friends that were also in the
community i would like to get in touch with any of the descendents of matthew
tales and let them see the pics etc. many thanks
REPLY FROM SEA-VIEW: You can see
information and a photo of Mathew Tales on our web site at:
Bev Harwood email@example.com
on Saturday, February 10, 2007
Message: I have the manifest from the Empress of Ireland containing the names
of my G/mother, my mother, aunt and uncle who sailed on it in 1910 .
Unfortunately it doesn't have the date on it. Would anyone know the dates the
Empress of Ireland sailed to Canada in 1910? Thank you.
firstname.lastname@example.org on Sunday, February 11, 2007
Location: Liverpool England
Message: Bev, The departure dates for 1910 are as follows, in each
instance the departure port was Liverpool and the destination port either
Quebec or St Johns. 11th February, 9th March,
8th April, 6th May, 3rd June, 30th June, 29th July,
26th August, 23rd September, 21st October, 18th November,
16th December. Kind regards,
Lower on Saturday, February 3, 2007
Location: MT. Storm Wva United States
Message: IM not sure if this is where I should be but I am doing a project on
Ghost Liners my Library has 1 book and it does not give alot of info on any of
the ships.If someone could send me someinfo on the Empress of Ireland it would
greatly be apreiciated. My address is Aniqua Lower Hc 76 Box 495, Mt.Storm
W.va 26739. My teacher had deadline for March but told us it isnow do Feb
15th, anything about the ship you could tewll me or send me brochures would be
great.. Thank You, Nicky Lower
on Saturday, February 3, 2007 Location: uk
Message: This site is such a labour of love, wonderful to see. I had heard the
story in the family, but until I researched it on here and other sites and
read the first hand accounts, well it left me shivering. Grandma's brother was
William Hart it was good to see the memorial stone with all the family details
on at Mortlach. Thank you.
Sunday, February 4, 2007
Message: Just want to say that you have a really informative and amazing site.
Really helped me further, much thanks
Thursday, May 17, 2007
Location: Scarborough Ontario Canada M1E 1C1
Message: I worked with John Ferguson a past Merchant Marine Radio Officer in
the 40`s whose father was the radio officer on the Empress of Ireland when she
sank .He was later a high level exec with marconi marine in London England.
In 1975 (centennial year) another work friend of John and myself dived on the
Empress and I understood he was the first person to do so...his name was Andre
Menard, he lived in Gatineau Quebec
Friday, May 25, 2007 Location: Belfast Nth Ireland
Message: Excellent Site. Cannot reach the site Thomas Tumilty relative of
Bernard (Lost) Just curious re family tree. It's an unusual name.
on Monday, June 4, 2007 Location: st.
Message: My mother has an old trumpet believed to be from the empree of
ireland and was wondering where she cou;d find out more about it and if it is
truly an artifact
Tuesday, June 5, 2007 Location: USA
Message: I would like to express my deepest thanks to everyone who made this
website... Well done!!!
email@example.com on Thursday, June 14, 2007
Location: Omaha, Nebraska USA
Message: This week I was going through some files of my parents' and I found
some old files about my great uncle James Johnson, my Dad's uncle. He was a
survivor of the Empress of Ireland ship wreck. He was a member of the
Salvation Army Band and played trombone. I had never heard of this ship. Now I
have just spent 3 hours researching on the net. WoW!! I am a grade school
librarian and have the book Ghost Liners by Robert Ballard on the shelf and
never knew that the chapter about the Empress was linked to my family.
- Maureen and Reg
Dawson firstname.lastname@example.org on
Friday, June 15, 2007 Location:
Mexborough South yorkshire England
Message: My husbands great grandfather was Matthew Tales who was returning
home to England to fetch his wife Mary and other children. When he was lost it
meant half the family were in England and half in Canada. We are researching
the Tales side of our family and would appreciate any information. Thank you
on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 Location:
Message: I would like to say a big Thank You for putting this wonderful
site on the web.Its both informative and amazing.I am reseaching my husbands
family tree and I had no idea that his great Uncle, James Bent, was a seaman
of the crew on the Empress of Ireland.Uncle James was lost at sea while
serving as a crew member on the Empress of Ireland.The infomation we have
gained from this site and from Geoffrey Whitfield is priceless. Please keep up
the wonderful work you are doing, and once again Many Thanks. Angela
- Maria ward
on Wednesday, July 18, 2007
Location: wrexham north wales united kingdom
Message: my g,g,uncle sydney maidment and wife harriet were killed in the
empress of ireland accident and i am researching the family i would love to
hear from anyone related to them who may still be living i do know of some
living grand daughters of sydney but do not know how to contact them one is
named lucille who i beleive lives in australia and also sharon who i think is
in canada .i would love to hear from them great site has really opened my eyes
to the tradgedy.
on Monday, July 23, 2007 Location:
Lindsay ont canada
Message: thanks for this site my Grand father was on it before it went down.
iF it went down on the way over I wouldn't be here at all or my father
- Liz Carpenter
on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 at 06:10
Location: Oxford, England
Message: My Great Uncle George Walter Manaderson, an assistant Saloon Steward
died onboard The Empress of Ireland. Does anyone know anything about him?
email@example.com on Tuesday, October 28, 2008
Location: Liverpool Merseyside
Message: Many suffered so the world would learn. r.i.p. the lost souls of
RMS Titanic,RMS Ireland,not forgetting those souls who were murdered on the